Curse

Ensign · Oct 09, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53

The Meteor Shower is gratuitous. You really just want Fireball + Rodgort's Invocation at VoD. Shower is just there because you already have the Glyph of Sacrifice, and because there's nothing terribly valuable for that last slot - Prodigy/Party/Blind, Glyph/Reschant, Fireball/Rodgorts, whatever. Might as well be Meteor Shower. If you ever run that guy in chapter 3 as a stand ele, I think the last skill becomes Liquid Flame, since that's a strong spike followup. Or if you run with that guy, Windborne.

Immolate is weak in general, I wouldn't recommend running it unless you're running it with a Mind Blast beater, or alongside Glowing Gaze. In those builds its filler, but acceptable filler. I think it's better than Fireball for what a Mind Blast build wants to do - beat on someone - because of the short cast time. Fireball actually ends up costing you more because it delays the Mind Blast another second, and you don't get that much extra damage out of it. Fireball is nice for the incidental AoE and spike potential, but if you're just beating...meh, who cares, you run them both on a beater.

I don't know why people keep bringing up Glyph of Energy as though someone, somewhere cared. Haven't people caught on to dual Attunements by now? Or Ether Prodigy, or Second Wind, or, hell, anything but Energy Boon really. The only reason to run Glyph of Energy is to chop the exhaustion off of spammed exhaustion skills, namely Obsidian Flame or Gale. Anyone caught casting Glyph of Energy for Meteor Shower shall be assumed to be a drooling moron until they prove otherwise. Sure most PvE Elementalists are "SOOPER NOOKERS", and yes, they do suck...but what can you expect from people who only play Guild Wars because they get ditched by the short bus in the morning?

Peace,
-CxE

Thom Bangalter · Oct 10, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

you have to have Meteor Shower on a gvg fire ele, because iQ used it against Evil. And everyone wants to be cool enough to run a fire ele.

I have always been a fan of immolate in pve, and will continue to run it because I can't think of anything better to run there. especially with factions where characters don't ball up like they used to.

In gvg though, it's not as strong, but burning is scary, and it's recharge makes it gimpy damage+scaryeffect appealing to me. granted, there ARE superior skills to run in that slot, and I'm talking about within the context of the current skillset. Once nightfall comes out, Clearly this will change.

I Brother Bloood I · Oct 10, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00

I dont see why it should be nerfed seems fine to me.

Thom Bangalter · Oct 11, 2006, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by Phades

First off, i dont see how keeping up casting immolate is difficult since its only 10e and recycles every 5s, which means just using that one skill does not run at a very high energy defecit with no energy management what so ever. Secondly, even dipping into illusion magic for conjure phantasm gets more "bang" for the energy. Still, getting away from that cross comparison, you are still spending your energy better for the cost and the time with just slinging fireball instead of immolate and you get the bonus possibility of striking more than one target for free.

At least anet is starting to look into the possibility for utility cross overs with examples like steam. However, they need to not be steaming piles of, er, you get the idea.

I shouldn't have called immolate 'devastating'. but It's arguably the best spammable skill has at the moment, besides fireball, but immolate has half the cast time. Anyway, you could get quite a bit of mileage spamming immolate and mind blast, then dropping your larger aoe spells on bunched up people, instead of rodgorting 1 person because everything else is recharging. Even short recharge skills like firball seem like they take an eternity to recharge.

I just realized that's what ensign said. I agree, immolate is certainly 'filler' because what else are you going to put there? flare?

carbajac · Oct 12, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Anyone caught casting Glyph of Energy for Meteor Shower shall be assumed to be a drooling moron until they prove otherwise.

...I like Glyph of Energy with Meteor Shower... Sure, I wouldn't use it for pvp, but in pve, I like it. There's so much enchantment removal in pve and dual attunements leave my energy reserves low if they get removed. Glyph of Energy lets me put stuff out without having to hold up the PUG.

And for the record...I don't drool ALL the time.

Captain Arne Is PRO · Nov 27, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

[skill]Mind Blast[/skill]

At 16 Fire Magic, there is a net energy gain of 5 energy per cast.. Fireball > Mind Blast > Mind Blast > Fireball, rinse and repeat.

That's at least what I like to do, :}

Thom Bangalter · Nov 27, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Rampager · Nov 27, 2006, 07:28 AM // 07:28

where do people come up with those pictures i have got to get some

Div · Nov 27, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

This is possibly one of the saddest fire skills out there, especially since it's an elite. It has absolutely no value in pvp, meaning they won't nerf it, and it has very limited value in pve (and none whatsoever for farming), another sign that they won't nerf it. If anything happens to it, it'll be a buff.